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勿箧桢 滞热翌魈帏: 研1, 研2, 研3, 研4 镳铟桢 牢, 严, 忻, 市烂 .. ( 4 )

怩钿 | 桉蝠桊钼囹 | 镱桉 | 疱觌囔 | 赅痱桧觇 | 赅脲礓囵 | 镱桉 铕箧, 爨汔玷眍 | 纛蝾觐黻箴覃 | 荔牿桀
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义爨: 勿箧桢 滞热翌魈帏: 研1, 研2, 研3, 研4 镳铟桢 牢, 严, 忻, 市烂 ..
Hooke
2-8-2008 04:46 Hooke
镥疴铄 耦钺龛 蝈戾:
NORDBADGER
6-4-2009 20:07 NORDBADGER
quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
2Red-Sun
殷 磬 钿眍 桤 纛痼祛 忸珥桕 忸镳铖 镱 严-10... 疣礤 铐 恹矬耜嚯桉 潆桧眍 矬脲, 蝈镥瘘 觐痤蜿铋 (铗 721)... 恹耜噻噱蝰 镳邃镱腩驽龛, 溴耜囹,  祛驽 猁螯 729?

亦 蝈爨 严-10 vs 729 严-11 vs 728 镱赅 礤 疣耜瘥蜞. 霹 忤滂祛 礤 漕狃嚯 筲. Red-Sun 漕 痼觐忸漶蜮.

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Hooke
6-4-2009 20:34 Hooke
quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
疣礤 铐 恹矬耜嚯桉 潆桧眍 矬脲, 蝈镥瘘 觐痤蜿铋

祛驽 猁螯 铋 鬣耱 磬 耢钽篁 镳铖忮蜩螯?
crank
6-4-2009 22:18 crank
quote:
鼠黜铖螯 研2 磬 溧朦眍耱 100 桤 镱腩驽龛 脲驵 箫铕

皖 蜞 镱龛爨 蜞赅 桤泐蝾怅 礤 踵疣牝屦磬 潆 篑腩忤 觐蝾瘥 耦徼疣 镳桁屙螯  铕箧桢, 蝾祗-驽 恹耦觇 蝈祜 耱疱朦猁-赅 忮痤蝽铖螯 镱疣驽龛 鲥腓 狍溴 桤 镱腩驽龛 岩芜?入 蜞:耜铍 镟蝠铐钼 眢骓 磬 镱疣驽龛 蜩镱忸 鲥腓 桤 礤篑蝾轺桠钽 镱腩驽龛
crank
7-4-2009 00:31 crank
泥-溧-溧, 羼腓 狍潴 祛膑囹, 礤 耦珥噔囹, 痤玢囔,痤玢囔, 痤....)))))))))))
Hooke
7-4-2009 16:50 Hooke
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
桉镱朦珙忄螯 龛 祛骓 蝾朦觐 痤漤 20-蜩 30-蜩 戾耱睇 爨汔玷睇 ( 沭噔桊钼觐 研3)

麇 铐 铗腓鬣???
磬 镥疴铎 纛蝾 眍恹 20-蜩 戾耱睇 爨汔玷?
磬钺铕铗, 蜞 镱龛爨, 祛骓 铗 研.3 姥 卵?

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NORDBADGER
7-4-2009 18:04 NORDBADGER
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
扬痤耔 觐眈蝠箨蝾疣 镳 镟蝠铐. 严10 = 729, 严11 = 728 龛赅觇 铗腓麒, 蝾朦觐 桧溴犟. 篷腓 玎赅骟 镟蝠铐 忸屙睇 - 磬镨 磬 赍 7... 潆 匝 镨 严10.

扬囫栳. 侦, 珥圜栩 铠栳赅 蝈犟蝈 痼觐忸漶蜮 ... 忮顸爨 耱疣眄 潆 觐腚尻蜩忄 耦耱噔怿桴-镳钼屦怿桴.

Hooke
7-4-2009 18:27 Hooke
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:

殃铕铖螯 铗赅蜞 玎蜮铕眍 疣禧 研3 犷朦 麇 629, 630 研3


赅觐 鲥朦??
腕 妁 镟痼 忸镳铖桕钼 :
- 蜞 镱龛爨 汶篪栩咫 眍恹 潆 研.3, 镱犷朦 镱潆桧礤?
- 爨汔玷 磬 30 镟蝠铐钼 戾蜞腚梓羼觇?
忸钺 赅觐 鲥朦 镳钼钿桦囫 祛溴痦桤圉 研.3, 蝾黜邋 铗 赅觇 礤漕耱囹觐 躅蝈腓 桤徉忤蝰?
枢镳嚯 砧犟
7-4-2009 18:44 枢镳嚯 砧犟
妁 忸镳铖桕. 枢觐忄 爨耨 研-3 爨汔玷磬扈 矬耱 磬 10, 20, 30 镟蝠铐钼?
NORDBADGER
7-4-2009 19:35 NORDBADGER
填骓 镱赅?

quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
赅觐 鲥朦??

忍瘴 镳钺脲禧 磬涓骓铖螯, 忤滂祛 礤 躅蝈豚 镥疱礤窀眄 徨聒箪睇 钺疣琏钼 噔蝾爨蜩赅 磬涓骓 疣犷蜞螯 "溻篚疱骅祉铎" 忄痂囗蝈. 袜 研.3 钺赅蜞腓 - 忭羼腓 桤戾礤龛. 研.2 研.3 镱 耋蜩 铒睇 钺疣琏 (觐腓麇耱忸 镱滂 溴蜿囔 桤戾腩顸 ?).

quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
- 蜞 镱龛爨 汶篪栩咫 眍恹 潆 研.3, 镱犷朦 镱潆桧礤?

族 麇泐? 族 研.3? 篷腓 耋滂螯 镱 蝾祗, 黩 螓 恹觌噤嚯 磬 镥疴铋 耱疣龛鲥 蝾驽 襦祛. 疹 赅觇-蝾 桤戾礤龛 祛泱 猁螯 - 疣睃 桤戾礤龛 忸镫铢嚯桉 溴蜿-耦蝽 螓 邃桧桷 恹矬眄钽 铕箧, 皴轺囫 怦 祛驽 戾螯 铗 镟痱梃 镟痱梃 溴蜿 邃桧桷. 骂琰旄 躅 猁 逝男. 畜黜 疣犷蜞 钿磬觐!

quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
- 爨汔玷 磬 30 镟蝠铐钼 戾蜞腚梓羼觇?

湾- - 耱嚯铋. 妈漤 驽, 黩 戾蜞腚.

quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
忸钺 赅觐 鲥朦 镳钼钿桦囫 祛溴痦桤圉 研.3, 蝾黜邋 铗 赅觇 礤漕耱囹觐 躅蝈腓 桤徉忤蝰?

翌驽 忤漤 忭屮礤. 橡 忭篁疱眄铖蜩 驿胳 Res-Sun-.

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NORDBADGER
7-4-2009 19:51 NORDBADGER
2Red-Sun

腕戾疣鲨 研.1 疣耧痤耱疣豚顸 磬 "锑觐怦觇" 桤溴腓 桦 蜞 疋?

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NORDBADGER
7-4-2009 23:38 NORDBADGER
quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
蒡 赅 镱龛爨 铒睇 忄痂囗 严?

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quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
袜 纛蝾 耜铕邋 怦邈 严.

项镳钺簋 妁 疣 镱漤螯 忸镳铖 - 蜞 黩 驽 磬 纛蝾? 项朦珙忄蝈腓 磬 纛痼戾 礤耜铍 疣 恹觌噤嚯 蜞牦 驽 祛滂翳赅鲨, 眍 赅 研.1.

骂 钿桧 镳桁屦 (纛蝾 锗徉痤怦)

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Hooke
8-4-2009 00:11 Hooke
霹 镳桁屦 研.1:

铘桷栲朦睇 疱觌囔睇 镳铖镥牝 滞热翌魈帏
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昔桷栲朦睇 襦轵 滞热翌魈帏 http://www.tsniitochmash.ru/sr1ru.htm

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昨钺 疣玮螯 怦 耦祉屙 镳铖桁 铘桷栲朦眢 桧纛痨圉棹 痂耋黻囔 桦 纛蝾
(磬镳. 畜觐忸漶蜮 镱 耧塍囹圉梃 ..)

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Hooke
8-4-2009 00:25 Hooke
quote:
Originally posted by 枢镳嚯 砧犟:

妁 忸镳铖桕. 枢觐忄 爨耨 研-3 爨汔玷磬扈 矬耱 磬 10, 20, 30 镟蝠铐钼?


锑耨 噔蝾爨蜞 徨 爨汔玷磬 - 2,0 赉
锑耨 爨汔玷磬 磬 10 镟蝠铐钼 - 0,1 赉
锑耨 爨汔玷磬 磬 20 镟蝠铐钼 - 0,17 赉
锑耨 爨汔玷磬 磬 30 镟蝠铐钼 - ???
枢镳嚯 砧犟
8-4-2009 01:53 枢镳嚯 砧犟
2Hooke: 铌彘, 耧囫栳. 务蜞腩顸 恹耥栩 爨耨 爨汔玷磬 磬 30, 溧 妁 研-2 疣珙狃囹 爨耨囔... 腕 膻犭 蝾黜 乙, 黩 箧 蝮...
NORDBADGER
8-4-2009 21:40 NORDBADGER
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
研2, 研3 猁腓 镳桧螓 疋铄 怵屐 磬 忸铕箧屙桢.

珥帼, 眍 磬 怵屐  龛 鞲 礤 泐忸痂. 娩 桴 忤溴腓 蝾 牝 镱朦珙忄腭? 吗钿 蝾朦觐 匝, 溧 耧弼磬珏 匝 怦蝠鬻嚯桉 - 戾腩鞲怅.

quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
研3 漕 耔 镱 恹矬耜帼 磬 椅清 忪羼蝈 卵 姥.

物螯 驽, 礤 忤漤 铖钺 蝮朦耜桴 研.3 耔腩忤觐. 袜 聍蛤 恹矬耜 卵 礤 牦瘃, 眍 磬痤 徉弪, 黩 镱耠 "筢栩" 卵 磬 玎戾眢 徨痼 铖眍忭铎 卵-94, 腓犷 镳铖蝾 9-91.

quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
暑眦屣鲨 礤泐 耦忮瘌屙眍 桧, 麇 研3.

殃瘥蝾 眍龛? 研.3 -  觐眦屣鲨 箴祛忸泐 铕箧 (噔蝾爨蜞)?

crank
8-4-2009 22:12 crank
逾噫噱禧 Red-Sun,赅 蜞 磬 聍蛤 忮痤蝽铖蜩 镱疣驽龛,"翦牝桠觇" 礤 耦珥嚯桉? 礤 耔腠 磬耱噼忄, 蜞...
Hooke
8-4-2009 23:23 Hooke
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
橡栳铕 徨聒箪眍 耱疱朦猁 磬 桴 溻篚 纛蝾 疣琊噌囹嚯桉 桤泐蜞怆桠嚯桉 礤 滞热椅滋镭. 蒡 蝈蹴囵 桤 匝 溴豚腓.

枢 镱 囹眍泐 汶篪栩咫 潆 研.3 礤 猁腩, 研.3 桤磬鬣朦眍 疣琊噌囹嚯 篦栩 耧塍囹圉棹 耦 囹睇 汶篪栩咫屐, 铗颃溧 祉钽桢 睨囗覃 恹蝈赅. 蝾 麒耠 爨汔玷眍.
篷腓 镳噔桦 镱龛爨 (镱镳噔 羼腓 礤 蜞), 蝾 研.3 徨 汶篪栩咫 祛骓 桉镱朦珙忄螯 耦 耱囵 爨汔玷磬扈? (蝈铕弪梓羼觇, .. 磬 镳嚓蜩赍 耢豚 爨腩)
腕 铖蜞腭 忸镳铖 镱 桉镱朦珙忄龛 眍恹 30-戾耱睇 爨汔玷眍 磬 姥 卵.

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NORDBADGER
8-4-2009 23:30 NORDBADGER
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Originally posted by Red-Sun:
痼觐忸漶蜮  镨襦腩顸 黩钺 祛骓 猁腩 桉镱朦珙忄螯 729, 728 研1. 篷腓 猁 蜞觐 麴噻 礤 猁腩, 蝾 "桎梓羼觇" 礤朦 猁腩 猁 桉镱朦珙忄螯 蜞觇 镟蝠铐 研1. 橡铊聃钿栩 耜噫屐 镱腩礻. "族 耱疱?". "729". " 痼觐忸漶蜮 蜞觇 礤. 妈眍忄 耱疱腩." 蜞 - 羼螯 严10 疣犷蜞 龛扈, 729 - 蝾驽 祛骓.

逾噫噱禧 Red-Sun, 怦 疣忭, 潆 戾 皴 噌玎 畜觐忸漶蜮 玮篦栩 礤耜铍 耱疣眄.

线, 磬镳桁屦, 镳祛 箨噻囗, 黩 囹睇 镟蝠铐 721, 钿磬觐 漕矬耜噱蝰 镳桁屙屙桢 漯筱桴 镟蝠铐钼 919, 黩 祛驽 镱怆鬻 玎 耦犷 桤戾礤龛 溧 乙.

"桎梓羼觐" 疣琊屮屙桢 蜞赕 礤 怙桉噱蝰 严-12, .. 镱塍鬣弪, 黩 邈 忸钺 礤朦 镳桁屙螯. 武磬觐 桁 耱疱. 湾 镳铢 蝾沅 猁腩 箨噻囹, 羼腓 疣珉梓 蝾朦觐 磬桁屙钼囗梃 镟蝠铐钼, 黩 祛骓 镳桁屙螯 "镟蝠铐 921-祆 铗鬻羼蜮屙眍泐 镳铊玮钿耱忄 疣珉梓睇扈 蜩镟扈 矬朦"?

橡桉篁耱忤 潴 囹睇 7烈3 恹玮嚯 戾 忸镳铖 - 镱麇祗 礤 严-13? 吗钿 猁 漕腈眍 玮篦囹 赅 "镳桁屙 严-10, 严-11, 严-13" "漕矬耜帼蝰 729, 728, 7烈3", 羼腓 箧 镟蝠铐 镥瘃铐嚯桤桊簋蝰.

羊忸
9-4-2009 00:38 羊忸
2NORDBADGER:
枢 镱 祉, 蜞 蝾, 黩 忄 耱铍 耢篁桦 畜觐忸漶蜮 - 礤 犷脲 麇 铟屦邃眍 "溴怵" 忸屙眍泐 赅眦咫痂蜞. 项咫桕 襦 羼禳 狺痤牮囹 牮觐蜮铕 镱 玎龛爨屐铋 漕腈眍耱, 镥痣囔 妁 镱蹼妁 钽, 矬耜嚅 镳桁屙栩咫 礤耜铍 桧 忮, 怦蝠鬻帼顸 疱泱痦. 项 牮嚅礤 戾疱, 钺耥屙 赅祓噤 Red-Sun- 赅骟蝰 祉 怙铍礤 腩汨黜.
筲噫屙桢. 羊忸.
Hooke
9-4-2009 11:14 Hooke
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Originally posted by Hooke:

30-戾耱睇 爨汔玷, 赅 20-戾耱睇 铗 研3 镳桧鲨镥 疣犷蜞螯 磬 卵 姥 狍潴 徨 镳钺脲. 臀!! 休 镳 龛 羼蝈耱忮眄 龛麇泐 礤. 篷腓 黩 耠篦栩, 狍潴 疣玑桊囹, "枢觇 桉镱朦珙忄 爨汔玷睇?". "悟 研3.." " 休 蜞觇 礤. 朽耨蝠咫螯!"


项蝽... 戾 桧蝈疱耦忄豚 蝈蹴梓羼赅 耱铕铐 忸镳铖, 礤 桎梓羼赅
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蝈祜 耱疱朦猁 研.3 礤 镱漶赅驽蝈?

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Hooke
9-4-2009 11:32 Hooke
祛驽 玎钿眍 乙 ( 汶篪栩咫屐 觐礤黜) 爨耨, 潆桧, 爨耨 爨汔玷磬?
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:

杨牮帙屙眍 磬桁屙钼囗桢 噔蝾爨蜞 - "捞""


研.3 - 捞 桦 汤 ???

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NORDBADGER
9-4-2009 12:15 NORDBADGER
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
霹 镳铟栩嚯 "...9-祆 祛溴痦桤桊钼囗睇 爨腩汔徉痂蝽 噔蝾爨... 杨牮帙屙眍 磬桁屙钼囗桢 噔蝾爨蜞 - "捞"".. 禧 怦 研3 邈 磬琨忄屐

9-祆 涎, 禧 邈 研.1 磬琨忄屐. 篷腓 忮痂螯 蝾祗 驽 痼觐忸漶蜮, 蝾 研.1 -  桧溴犟. 涎 涎 耥 溴腩 忄 "忭篁痂玎忸漶觇" 钺铉磬麇龛.

NORDBADGER
9-4-2009 12:21 NORDBADGER
quote:
Originally posted by 羊忸:
2NORDBADGER:
枢 镱 祉, 蜞 蝾, 黩 忄 耱铍 耢篁桦 畜觐忸漶蜮 - 礤 犷脲 麇 铟屦邃眍 "溴怵" 忸屙眍泐 赅眦咫痂蜞. 项咫桕 襦 羼禳 狺痤牮囹 牮觐蜮铕 镱 玎龛爨屐铋 漕腈眍耱, 镥痣囔 妁 镱蹼妁 钽, 矬耜嚅 镳桁屙栩咫 礤耜铍 桧 忮, 怦蝠鬻帼顸 疱泱痦. 项 牮嚅礤 戾疱, 钺耥屙 赅祓噤 Red-Sun- 赅骟蝰 祉 怙铍礤 腩汨黜.
筲噫屙桢. 羊忸.

忸屙眍祗 赅眦咫痂囹  铗眍龛 礤 桁邋. 吾耥屙 镳 镳梓桧眍耱 蜞觐泐 磬镨襦龛 镱. 翌朦觐 黩 祛桴 钺耥屙 玮篦栩 礤腩汨黜? 义犟 溧眄铎 祛戾眚 忍瘴 礤 漕疣犷蜞.

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Ahtagot
9-4-2009 15:40 Ahtagot
逾噫噱禧, Red-Sun
赅 磬聍弪 牦黜铖蜩 研3 ? 袜耜铍 耔朦眍 铗腓鬣弪 铗 锣豚\埋?
NORDBADGER
10-4-2009 00:06 NORDBADGER
quote:
Originally posted by NORDBADGER:
"桎梓羼觐" 疣琊屮屙桢 蜞赕 礤 怙桉噱蝰 严-12, .. 镱塍鬣弪, 黩 邈 忸钺 礤朦 镳桁屙螯.

语. 项 铎 镳邃腩驽龛 礤镳噔. 严-12 箫铎桧噱蝰. 杨怦屐 耱囵 耱嚯, 耠屣铋 钿磬觐. 务蜞朦眍 耔脲.

Hooke
10-4-2009 14:38 Hooke
青 镱漯钺睇 乙 蚊形掏闻 耧囫栳.
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
爨汔玷磬 忻079

蒡 蜞 镱龛爨 20-戾耱睇 镫囫蜩觐恹 祛溴痦桤桊钼囗睇 爨汔玷 潆 研.3...
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妁 祛驽 镱溴腓蝈顸 妁 礤桤忮耱睇扈 桧溴犟囔 滞热翌魈帏?
骂, 黩 桁邋蝰 磬腓麒:
忻019 - 7,94-祆 镨耱铍弪 耧弼栲朦眍泐 镨耱铍弪眍泐 觐祜脲犟 "蔓耱疱"
忻020 - 7,6242-祆 耧弼栲朦睇 镟蝠铐 严-4
忻021 - 7,62-祆 镨耱铍弪 耧弼栲朦睇 襦祛玎漤 涎 "麦" (628)
忻028 - 918-祆 镟蝠铐 镱恹眄铋 镳钺桠噱祛耱
忻036 - 7,62-祆 铒磬 徨聒箪磬 耥嚅镥瘃赅 忤眚钼赅
忻037 - 7,6228-祆 铒睇 镟蝠铐 潆 忤眚钼觇 忻036
忻040 - 翔耱铍弪睇 觐祜脲犟 潆 徨聒箪眍 徨耧豚戾眄铋 耱疱朦猁 (涎 严-4)
忻051 - 939-祆 爨腩汔徉痂蝽 噔蝾爨 研-3 "妈躔"
忻052 - 921-祆 铒睇 镨耱铍弪睇 镟蝠铐
忻053 - 12,3-祆 疱忸朦忮 "愉囵"
忻054 - 921-祆 镨耱铍弪睇 镟蝠铐 严-10
忻055 - 921-祆 镨耱铍弪 涎 "摸痃" / 研-1 "洛牝铕"
忻057 - 919-祆 镟蝠铐 721
忻060 - 921-祆 镨耱铍弪 "摸痃" (耧铕蝽 忄痂囗 忻055)
忻063 - 919-祆 铒睇 镨耱铍弪-矬脲旄 "拎犟囗"

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NORDBADGER
10-4-2009 17:24 NORDBADGER
扬囫栳, Red-Sun! 泥给 怦孱狴簋 沭囔铗眍耱 磬皴脲龛!
mpopenker
10-4-2009 18:21 mpopenker
quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:

忻019 - 7,94-祆 镨耱铍弪 耧弼栲朦眍泐 镨耱铍弪眍泐 觐祜脲犟 "蔓耱疱"
忻036 - 7,62-祆 铒磬 徨聒箪磬 耥嚅镥瘃赅 忤眚钼赅
忻037 - 7,6228-祆 铒睇 镟蝠铐 潆 忤眚钼觇 忻036


祛骓 妁 忸 镱 桁 矬黻蜞 镱镱漯钺礤, 镱驵塍轳蜞?
Hooke
10-4-2009 20:39 Hooke
quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
忻037 - 7,6228-祆 铒睇 镟蝠铐 潆 忤眚钼觇 忻036

绣龛 猁腩 磬殇屙 耦玟囗梃 眍忸泐 镟蝠铐. 暑眈蝠箨蝾痤 ..青徨腓睇 蝈蹴铍钽铎 ..拟铕龛眍忸. 磬 徉珏 汨朦琨 5.45 噔蝾爨蝽钽 镟蝠铐 猁 疣琊噌铗囗 耥嚅镥瘃觇 镟蝠铐 漕玮箨钼铋 (300 /) 耜铕铖螯 矬腓, 镱塍麒怿栝 疣犷麇 钺铉磬麇龛 忻037. 雾 桁咫 潆桧 46 祆 镳 钺 爨耨 16 , 爨耨 矬腓 10.6 . 钺豚溧 玎忤漤铋 牦黜铖螯 耱疱朦猁. 袜 溧朦眍耱 100 戾蝠钼 R50=4 耢. 磬 400 - R50=16.5 耢.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
忻036 - 7,62-祆 铒磬 徨聒箪磬 耥嚅镥瘃赅 忤眚钼赅

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quote:
Originally posted by Hooke:
忻019 - 7,94-祆 镨耱铍弪 耧弼栲朦眍泐 镨耱铍弪眍泐 觐祜脲犟 "蔓耱疱"

扬弼梏梓羼觇 玎溧麒, 疱屐 镱溻钿睇扈 滂忮瘃囗蜞扈, 镱蝠遽钼嚯 1970- 耦玟囗 耧弼栲朦眍泐 祛眚噫眍泐 桧耱痼戾眚. 袜 铖眍忮 汨朦琨 镟蝠铐 钺. 1943 . 滞热椅滋镭 猁 耦玟囗 7,94-祆 耧弼栲朦睇 镟蝠铐 涎-1 濑徨脲 潆 牮屣脲龛 耧弼栲朦睇 篑蝠铋耱 觐眈蝠箨鲨, 耦玟囗睇 桤 疣珉梓睇 爨蝈痂嚯钼 - 磬镳桁屦 耱嚯, 徨蝾, 溴疱忸. 亦 驽 桧耱栩篁 镱 铗 镟蝠铐 猁腩 疣琊噌铗囗 耱疱邋 篑蝠铋耱忸. 橡桁屙屙桢 耧弼栲朦眍-镨耱铍弪眍泐 觐祜脲犟 严-1 忸珈铈眍 礤 蝾朦觐 磬 耋, 眍 镱 忸漕.
暑祜脲犟 猁 疣琊噌铗囗 沭箫镱 耧弼栲腓耱钼 耦耱噔 .. 泪疣祛忄, .. 求徉麇忄 .. 彦痄钼. 1979 . 铐 镳桧 磬 耥噌驽龛 绿.
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橡邃磬珥圜屙 潆 牮屣脲龛 戾蜞腚梓羼觇 觐眈蝠箨鲨 桦 镱溻羼觇 沭箸钼 耦铕箧屙 桤 耱嚯, 徨蝾磬, 觇痫梓, 溴疱忄 磬 耋 镱 忸漕.
相蝠铐 7,9439 祆 (涎-1)
锑耨 镨耱铍弪 爨汔玷眍 徨 镟蝠铐钼, 赉 1,8
碾桧 镨耱铍弪, 祆 280
澎觐耱 爨汔玷磬, 镟蝠铐钼 6
玉桦桢 玎牮屣脲龛 濑徨, 赉:
耱嚯 徨蝾眄 耦铕箧屙 100
溴疱眄 耦铕箧屙 40
锑犟桁嚯 汶筢桧 镳桁屙屙, 40

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mpopenker
13-4-2009 17:05 mpopenker
! 忸  觌囫!

蝾忄痂 Red-Sun 磬 镫囔屙眍 觐眚痧邂铍桀眄铄 耧囫栳!

祛骓 纛蝾沭圄梃 牢-46 疣玑铕 忤 爨汔玷磬 铗溴朦眍? 铟屙 桧蝈疱耥 赅 蜞 礤泐 恹躅 镟蝠铐钼 皲咫囗, 溧 镱溧忄蝈朦 爨汔玷礤 礤犷顸 蹊蝠...

纛蜿 皴徨 磬 忤眵羼蝈 镳桕铒帼, 妁 疣 耧囫栳!

Hooke
13-4-2009 18:08 Hooke
quote:
Originally posted by mpopenker:
祛骓 纛蝾沭圄梃 牢-46 疣玑铕 忤 爨汔玷磬 铗溴朦眍?

忸 蜞觐 恹觌噤嚯 疣礤... 祛驽 镳桡钿栩 羼腓 疣礤 礤 镱镟溧腩顸...
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mpopenker
13-4-2009 18:09 mpopenker
Red-Sun, 磬 蝾 耧囫栳

忸 桧蝈疱耥, 耋耱怏弪 腓 礤赅 铗牮 腓蝈疣蝮疣 镱 桉蝾痂 滞热 翌魈帏?
蝾 忸 氏 耜噫屐 噫 蝠 (赅 扈龛祗) 觏桡 恹矬耱桦 镱 疋铄 铗牮铋 桉蝾痂, 矬耱 钽疣龛麇眄 蜩疣骖 (蝾朦觐 潆 疋铊).

蜞牦 猁 觏桡 猁 皴徨 徼犭桀蝈牦 玎桁咫 镳孱沭铎睇 箐钼铍蜮桢.

圊 溧, 妁 耢铗痂蝈 刑, 蜞 礤犷朦 忸镳铖 忄 蝾驽

枢镳嚯 砧犟
13-4-2009 22:38 枢镳嚯 砧犟
翌忄痂 Red Sun 桉牮屙礤 耧囫栳! 碾 镱腠钽 耱 礤 踱蜞弪 蝾朦觐 乙 研-2 - 蜞觇 镱漯钺睇 赅 磬 研-3.
纛蜿 牢-46 蝾 皴徨 篁帙.
crank
13-4-2009 23:57 crank
逾噫噱禧 Red-Sun,耜噫栩, 忸轳赅 箧 桁妣蝰 觐祀尻螓 赅腓狃钼, 侨相,痼觐忸漶蜮 镱 疱祛眚?(亦, 镳铖蝾,眍耱嚯...)
mpopenker
14-4-2009 10:39 mpopenker
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:

妙潴 2000 恹矬耱桦 觏桄牦 "袜 耠箧徨 悟鬻羼蜮". 皖 忸 礤 珥帼 镱镟豚 腓 铐 痤觇 爨耨. 娩-蝾 脲骅 戾. 填驽 狍溴 怵屐 铗耜囗桊忄螯


磬痤 狍溴 忮顸爨 镳桤磬蝈脲, 溧
NORDBADGER
14-4-2009 14:29 NORDBADGER
耩邃礤泐 桤 耱 严10-忧 潴朦鲥 玎蝾 黩-腓? 湾镱漕!
NORDBADGER
14-4-2009 21:26 NORDBADGER
quote:
Originally posted by Red-Sun:
湾. 湾 玎蝾. 袜蚋觇 豚赅. 念矬耜帼蝰 镱 觐眚痤朦眍祗 钺疣琏

项蝽.

crank
14-4-2009 22:34 crank
殃噫栩, 羼腓 卵 性 耋耱怏 耔耱屐 镱 镟蝠铐 921 919,蝾 镳钼钿桦桉 腓 耧屦屐屙螓 镱 恹耥屙棹 镱耠邃耱忤 镥疱耦痱桷 桴 犷屣痂镟耦?
Walenok
15-4-2009 15:41 Walenok
昨 蝾 祉 耔蝮圉棹 64 72 磬镱扈磬弪. 拟 镟蝠铐 9\21 9\19.
mpopenker
15-4-2009 16:59 mpopenker
眢 蜞 921 铐 铖眍忭铎 搪, 匝 镳铟桴 蝠艴狍赈屙睇 觐眚铕
919 - 铐 蜩镟 忸屙睇, 忸钺 扈痤忸 耱囗溧痱

忸, 沿 镳噔铑躔囗栩咫 耱痼牝箴 磬 忸铕箧屙梃 赅 扈龛祗 4 疣珥 疣耧痤耱疣礤眄 赅腓狃 潆 镨耱铍弪钼 (919, .357 侨, .40崖, .45姥) - 龛麇泐, 怦 矬麝铎


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