Фото новинок буду размещать здесь...

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All, the ESEE-3F Folder project is no longer going forward. We received this email from Gianni this morning. This is after we made a deal with Gianni at SHOT show in the ESEE booth, shook hands on the deal with Gianni, agreed to a production timeline, agreed to all changes and told all of our customers at SHOT the projected delivery times on the new folder. We wer going to send him the purchase order in February and he agreed to that. What can I say? This is the very reason we are tired of dealing with overseas production of any items. You simply can't count on a deal being a deal, you can't count on delivery times and most everything that is agreed on seems to change. As we have explained numerous times to our customer base and to Lion Steel, we do indeed want our products built in the USA. The ESEE-3F was going to be the first Italian made folder and the Izula was going to be American made. As Gianni well knows the ESEE-3F project has been in the pipeline for a long time. Tom has been working with Gianni for quite a while fine tuning the project.

Oh well, we wish Lion Steel and Gianni the best. He obviously has more business than he needs and no longer has time for ESEE knives. Gianni's quality is excellent but if he had reservations about doing the project he should have told us this at SHOT when he met with us, and not waited until after he had bigger and better orders. Obviously $$ and profit mean much more than keeping a deal. I hope this business model serves him well in the future, but this business model is the exact opposite of ESEE Knives. So, it is what it is. We apologize to all of you for getting you excited about this and having the maker back out on us. But we refuse to allow the negative to drag us down, we will simply turn our attention and focus to pushing harder to have this folder made in the USA.

From: Lion Steel [email address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:39 AM
To: ESEE Michael Perrin; jungle@jungletraining.com
Subject: LionSteel - Esee

Dear Jeff and Mike,
It was a great pleasure to meet you in Las Vegas, our meeting let me
understand better the situation of our possible collaborations.

I have to say you that LionSteel in this moment is having a strange and
wonderful time. We have collected for existing knives many orders, a lot of,
more than we expected. We do not know in this moment how to respect all the
orders that we have got. We have a backlog of orders for a year.

As I do not want make any mistake in delivery time I have to properly
evaluate witch PO I can accept. I do not want cause problems to any company.

Reading your sub-forum in the past weeks I have understood that you are not
in a hurry and you would like have the production of your items made in US.
I understand and I accept your position, you are a US company that want have
US items, but I do not deny that this is for me a situation of insecurity.

For these reason I have no power to accept any new item this year and I let
you looking for a US company that can produce your nice folding knife.

I hope that you understand my production problems,

Best regards
Gianni Pauletta
http://www.lionsteel.it
__________
Jeff Randall

А вот что Gianni с LionSteel написал (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813875 ):

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To inform everyone that we will not produce the Esee Folder.

The main reason is because we are not able to say yes to everyone that wants our help in production.
We have so many backlog orders of LionSteel knives that we are obligated to find a solution.

We trust Esee company and for this reason we do not want make them any losses with delay production shipment problems.
We have honored our promised and make for them the samples for the Shot Show. But before accept the purchase order we must be sure that we will be able to honor also the production schedule that they need.

As everybody know LionSteel task was only to produce the samples, the choise of where to produce was open. No one from either parts has never guaranteed the final production. There is no one production order yet.
For this reason I immediately let to Esee know our production problem and let them choise the best things for their company.

I am sorry to lose this great opportunity but LionSteel is a small company that has quality like is own main focus. We want guarantee to all LionSteel fans the same quality that they are used to find in our knives. we want grow, but step by step.

Emerson The Roadhouse

Подробности тут - http://www.emersonknives.com/ekPrestigeDealer.php

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Large Lum

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Originally posted by Polosatyy:

Ждем сколько будет стоить их фолдер в люминии.

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Скай: и за что его так любят? какой то страшненький...

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А теперь бальшой - наверное, хочу!

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Originally posted by Polosatyy:

170 евро..дорого нах!

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да ну чет ваабше не о чем...

Camillus

6.75" Carbonitride Folding Knife

Limited Edition Fixed Hunter. Numbered 1 - 500

9.75" Fixed Carbonitride with its beautiful 2 tone bamboo handle

8.5", 7.75" and 8" Carbonitride Titanium Folding Knives (18514, 18539, 18513)

TigerSharp replaceable blade knives

Gatco/Timberline

Long War

Key Ring Knife with Sheath

Neck Angel - Composite

ECS-4 Neck Knife

Buck Knives

141 Buck PakLite Field Master: Skinner, Caper and guthook kit for hunters

113 Ranger Skinner

014 015 016 LUX

845 846 847 Vantage Force

Gerber Bear Grylls Survival Series

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Originally posted by sDiablo666:

а как зовется гербер, который самый первый?

NIRK Tighe

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When Brian Tighe saw Glenn Klecker's NIRK folder, introduced last year by CRKT, he was inspired by the elegant simplicity of its minimalist design, stamped and folded out of two pieces of stainless steel. The resulting custom NIRK Tighe won the Most Innovative Custom Design Award at the 2010 Blade Show. Now CRKT has turned that collaboration into an affordable production knife priced at just $150 MSRP.

Instead of CNC machined titanium frames, the CRKT version uses stainless steel with blue titanium nitride coating and an exterior satin finish. Like the original NIRK, the knife is a lockback folder in which the spring, release bar and lock detent are all integral with the frame structure. The blue accents and intricate details make for a beautiful and striking knife.

The 3.875 in. AUS 8 stainless steel drop point blade has a bit of recurve to it. Large geometric cutouts serve as purchase for your thumb to one-hand open the blade, or you can use the flipper, which is even easier. A caged ball bearing system allows it to swing open smooth as silk. A removable stainless clip is provided.

NIRK Novo

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Glenn Klecker's latest is the NIRK Novo, a bit smaller than the original NIRK, with a 2.75 in. sheepsfoot blade of 4Cr15MoVNi stainless steel. It is available as plain or combo edge in satin finish. Right hand carry only with a single thumb stud and a deep carry clip, the latter a nice improvement over the original. The frame and back lock are still a one piece design like the original, but there's no lanyard hole in this smaller version. MSRP is $25.

K.I.S.S. ASSist

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Nobody will ever accuse the folks at CRKT of not having a sense of humor. The K.I.S.S. ASSist is the latest iteration of Ed Halligan's Keep It Super Simple knife design that has been a mainstay for CRKT from its earliest days. The added OutBurst assisted opening, with their patent-pending Fire Safe combination thumb stud and safety, does take some away from the simplicity angle, but they have done a great job incorporating it all into the basic design without mucking it up or adding a great deal of weight or bulk..

As described by CRKT, "when closed, the blade is safely locked by a special cam-over pin that extends from the assist spring. It cannot be opened until the safety button on the end of the thumb stud is firmly depressed and the thumb stud is nudged outward. It is both very fast, and very safe, because simply pressing the Fire Safe button does not open the knife. You must both press down and nudge the blade outward deliberately."

The AO spring and mechanism is covered by a thin sheet of carbon fiber composite inset into the frame. A Zytel guard serves to protect the single ground edge. The satin finish AUS 4 stainless steel blade is 2.75 in. long in either a drop point or tanto point and plain or combo edge. The frame is bead-blasted stainless with a removable stainless pocket clip/ money clip. MSRP is $60.

Shenanigan Aluminum and Shenanigan PPS

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A pair of flipper opening liner lock folders from Ken Onion expands his offerings from CRKT. These are essentially the same knife offered in both a value priced model and a higher end model. Both feature at 3.25 in. classic Ken Onion drop point blade with a recurved edge.

AUS 8 stainless is used on the PPS, the higher end model uses CRKT's premium Acuto+ at 59-60 HRc. The PPS model features molded handles of polyphenylene sulfide (PPS) organic polymer with an inset liner. The Shenanigan Aluminum has a cold-forged 6061 T6 aluminum alloy handles, beadblasted and with a clear anodized coating. Injected molded grippy soft textured scales are inset into the handle.

Both are set up with a removable right hand carry clip and a lanyard hole. Both plain and combo edge is offered on both models. MSRP is $50 for the Shenanigan PPS and $100 for the Shenanigan Aluminum.

Onion Skinner

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Ken Onion is a enthusiastic big game hunter and helps organize hunts for Paralyzed Veterans of America. For half a decade he's been perfecting his vision of the ultimate hunting/skinning knife, sending dozens and dozens of prototypes to guides, professional hunters and hunting buddies for testing. The result is not your father's hunting knife.

I'll let CRKT explain:

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Here's an explanation of its unusual features and their functions:

First, the knife has a thin tip, with a slightly convex grind near the tip that minimizes drag. No caping knife is needed for detail work.

Second, the top of the blade has a pronounced "camel hump". This allows the hunter to insert the tip under the skin and rock the hand back, which raises the tip up and away from the paunch.

Third, the tip has a straight section at an offset angle. This makes the knife a useful utility and cooking tool around camp.

Fourth, is the short 3.75" blade length. This is just the length of the average finger, which has proven perfect for the pencil grip favored by many hunters.

Finally, the Onion Skinner features a handle which has a deep finger choil, which greatly improves grip in slippery conditions. The thin cross section allows for less obtrusive carry while still locking in the fitted sheath.

The blade is Bohler K110 stainless steel with a satin finish, hardened to HRc 58-60. The very grippy handle is Thermal Plastic Rubber over-molded on a Zytel core with a textured finish of Onion's own design.

A lanyard is included, along with a very nice fitted leather deep insert sheath. MSRP is $80.

Shakaula

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Ken Onion's take on a multi-function hunter's tool, the Shakulu combines two hunting blades that reach back to antiquity, a cleaver and the ulu palm knife. The 0.267 thick blade of 65MN high carbon steel, black powder coated, has a fairly high grind, providing a good slicing edge while retaining plenty of strength. A gut hook is incorporated into the spine.

You can hold the tool in a variety of grips, depending on what you want to use it for, skinning, gutting, chopping, etc. The ergonomic handle is polypropylene with over-molded dark green TPE plastic inserts. The polypropylene sheath is one of the best I've seen for this type tool, with a secure lock to hold it in, regardless of how it is carried. The lock on the sample we saw needs a bit of work to make it easier to use with cold hands or gloves on, which I am sure it will get.

CRKT notes, "the Shakaulu should not be confused with a brush cutter or hatchet. It is a much more sophisticated skinning tool, and the Razor-Sharp edge is not intended for such use." MSRP is $90.

M16-14ZER

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CRKT has integrated a belt cutter and window breaker into its very popular larger frame M16. The belt cutter is cut into a somewhat larger flipper. A tungsten carbide window breaker protrudes from the butt of the handle.

The tanto ground blade is AUS 4, 3.75 inches long with a combo edge. It is equipped with AutoLAWKS safety lock. Scales are orange Zytel. The clip is reversible and can be used tip up or down. MSRP is $90.

Lefties Get Some Respect

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CRKT introduced three new left-hand versions of some of their most popular tactical knives. These are the M21 G10, and 2 versions of the Special Forces M16, the M16-13SFGL and M16-14SFGL (in order below).

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Moving away from Bear Grylls and into Gerber's regular line, they have four new spring-assisted opening knives. Like most knife companies, they are adding a serrated section to the blades. Thankfully one of them doesn't have this "improvement". I don't have prices on these yet.

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Gerber seemed to be trying to make their newest multitools "office friendly" by making them look less knife-shaped. The gray multitool is still fairly traditional though the pliers pops straight out the top rather than the usual "butterfly" style. It contains a regular-sized bit driver and also a Gerber-specific tiny bit driver. The tiny driver has just a flat eye-glass sized bit on one end and a small Philips head on the other end which is mainly for small electronics.

The blue and orange tools contain LED flashlights, regular bit drivers, scissors, and assorted other basic tools but now pliers.

SHOT 2011 Citadel Knives - s1117.photobucket.com

Ну а Спайдерка, как всегда, до омерзения банальна и скучна.

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Originally posted by recon11:

Красавец просто! Но им, похоже, придётся любоваться только на фото..

Пока не поздно:
www.knifeworks.com
Жаль только "по карточкам" раздают - один в руки, а то разжился бы сразу парочкой.

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Originally posted by Adiga:

www.knifeworks.com
Жаль только "по карточкам" раздают - один в руки, а то разжился бы сразу парочкой.

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Originally posted by Vasya156:
www.knifeworks.com
Очередной интересный лимитированный ножик от Бенчей.

О-о я чуть позднее оказался, пока ПМы отсылал
Это Лимитовый AFCK специально для Shot Show - раньше в этой теме был.

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Originally posted by Akeela:
Интересно, а Resilience полносеррейторный они не додумаются сделать?)

Ага. И РК рекурвой изогнуть и остриё закерамбитить.
Получилась бы не помесь Мили с Тинашизом, а гибрид Тинашиза и Цивилиана.

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Originally posted by Adiga:

Это Лимитовый AFCK специально для Shot Show - раньше в этой теме был.

в барахолке недавно классический 800й АФСК видел гдето за 8мь - тот правда с серрейтором был, но и с бабочкой и "балисонг".
но этот новый и лимитовый и красивый)))
вообщем думайте.. последний раз в магазине видел АФСК за 13 гдето - но то была 806ая из м4

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Originally posted by Andrew L2:

И РК рекурвой изогнуть и остриё закерамбитить.

Совершенно лишнее. Просто эндюры, мили, полисы и тд полносеррейторные есть, а этого нет, хотя вполне уместен.

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Originally posted by Adiga:

мр. К (К - это коммерсант наверно )

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Originally posted by Adiga:

но то была 806ая из м4

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mr. K

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это Кирилл)) раньше (очень давно) я тут приторговывал, но сейчас отстал от темы, но хочу вернуться в барахолку))

Я помню. Хорошо торговал. Респект!

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Originally posted by Akeela:

Совершенно лишнее. Просто эндюры, мили, полисы и тд полносеррейторные есть, а этого нет, хотя вполне уместен.

Ну это кому как. Мне вот кажется, что и серрейтор лишний.

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Originally posted by Andrew L2:

Я помню. Хорошо торговал. Респект!

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Originally posted by Andrew L2:

Ну это кому как. Мне вот кажется, что и серрейтор лишний.

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Я лишь имел ввиду, что появление серрейторной модели было бы вполне логично и оправдано в этом ряду. Говорю именно о полносеррейторном, а не о комбо.

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Originally posted by Zilraen:

фуллсерр тин же есть - почему бы и этому не быть

SOG Knives Shot Show 2011 Coverage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqZb9hKYp80

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Rekon11, Alexandr777
Пока не поздно:http://www.knifeworks.com/benchmade800-1001afckblackplainedgelimitedto250.aspx
Жаль только "по карточкам" раздают - один в руки, а то разжился бы сразу парочкой.

Спасибо за наводку уже заказал
Менее чем за сутки размели.

Gerber Metolius Exchange-A-Blade

Ka-Bar Big Brother

Ontario Ranger Falcon

Gerber Tantos

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И назывался бы он тогда - Нимравус

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Originally posted by DerRock:

Точно. Да это и сейчас Нимравус. Гербер окончательно в Китай переехал, теперь даже по образу мыслей.

а верхний рокоятью смахивает на Бак Найтховк!

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Ontario Ranger Falcon

Ы! Прикольный и незамысловатый )) Где б подержать такой...

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Originally posted by ser_t:
Итальянцы "сдулись" - [b]ESEE-3F Folder with Lion Steel is Canceled! ( http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813855 ):
[/B]

по ходу дела оказалось всё не совсем так :

Esee asked me to produce samples nothing else. They tryed till last days before Shot Show to find an US producer!!
I promised them to make the samples within the Shot Shot. I have honored my promised like always LionSteel do.
I have never accept production program only because I have never had a purchase order!!... I say you more... my feeling was that they did not wanted make that knife outside US.

I would like to know if there is a company in all knives business that start to work 2.000 knives, under not his own name, without a formal purchase order.... it is incredible...

It was not a problem if we have to change one screw with another.. but only trust in a producer. If they had confidence in LionSteel why they looked for to another vendor till last days before Shot Show?
Why they did not be clear immediately with me?

During the Shot Show meeting (we had it during the third day of the show) they asked me 4 weeks for the purchase order.
What would happen if during the four weeks they will find an American supplier?
What I have to do in the next four weeks... I should say to LionSteel's customers that I can not send to them the already collected order because I am waiting the Esee order?

2000 pieces are a big order, not a joke.

I'm really sorry, it's not easy to say no to a possible order of 2000 pieces under a good name like Esee.

т.е. те просили сделать прототипы и пока даже не договаривались о том, чтобы пустить в серию, пытаясь до последнего найти американского производителя.

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Nutnfancy 2011 SHOT Show: Spyderco with Sal Glesser - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVuW214v2d8[/B][/QUOTE]
Нэйтив в титане и со спусками от обуха хорош! В каталоге его не было вроде?
Lionspy тож интересный, вопрос в цене

ser_t 30-01-2011 16:11

LionSteel Shot Show 2011 - SR1 - LionSpy - HEST F - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7BsbPHZsRI

ser_t 30-01-2011 16:14

[img]http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u298/supratentorial/Wenger_2011_Catalog-18.jpg
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Andrew L2 30-01-2011 16:17

Что-то как-то не нравится мне идея совмешать клинок с гаечным ключом. ТБ явно не на высоте...

ser_t 30-01-2011 16:26

SHOT 2011 Tops Knives - s1117.photobucket.com

ser_t 30-01-2011 16:29

Kershaw Black 1790CKT ( www.kershawknives.com ), вышел, вроде, давно, а нормальных "живых фото" еще не было...

Скай 30-01-2011 16:38

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Kershaw Black 1790CKT

был бы он см 10 было бы прикольнее

я не понимаю почему складни больше 10 см выпускает только колдстил?

Polosatyy 30-01-2011 16:43

А что за нейтив в титане?Что о нем известно?Выложите плис фото с видео т.к не могу с телефона посмотреть.

ser_t 30-01-2011 16:57

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Originally posted by Polosatyy:

Выложите плис фото с видео т.к не могу с телефона посмотреть.

К сожалению, лучших ракурсов не было...

mako45 30-01-2011 17:00

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Originally posted by Скай:

был бы он см 10 было бы прикольнее

я не понимаю почему складни больше 10 см выпускает только колдстил?

Вот вот. Я тоже об этом думал когда на нокаут, эшелон и пистон глядел...Такие красавцы... Нокаут эшелон 9см было б в самый раз. А пистон 10см отлично.
Видимо для этих размеров у них ZT, с сталями и ценами.

Polosatyy 30-01-2011 17:14

Спасибо!Интересный будет нож!

Скай 30-01-2011 17:14

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Видимо для этих размеров у них ZT, с сталями и ценами.

глупо как то... ниша по сути пустая...

Akeela 30-01-2011 18:04

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Originally posted by mako45:

Видимо для этих размеров у них ZT

ZT тоже пополам короткие, не понимаю зачем нужен такой мега-стратегический нож с толстенным клинком 8 см и что им можно делать толком кроме ковыряния дверных косяков.
Видимо мешают какие-то комплексы или предрассудки, боятся мысль развить и сделать нормальный рабочий инструмент с 10-11см лезвием.

Скай 30-01-2011 18:21

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Видимо мешают какие-то комплексы или предрассудки, боятся мысль развить и сделать нормальный рабочий инструмент с 10-11см лезвием.

ну как минимум 10-11

chiseliov 30-01-2011 18:36

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Originally posted by Скай:

был бы он см 10 было бы прикольнее

я не понимаю почему складни больше 10 см выпускает только колдстил?

не только колд стил , еще гербер я про комбат фолдер

Akeela 30-01-2011 18:38

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Originally posted by Скай:

ну как минимум 10-11

Да.
А вообще меня давно привлекает такая концепция:

Прошу прощения за оффтоп.

Alexx_S 30-01-2011 18:44

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Originally posted by Akeela:

Да. А вообще меня давно привлекает такая концепция:

Концепция кражи дизайна?

Akeela 30-01-2011 18:45

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Originally posted by Alexx_S:

Концепция кражи дизайна?

Естественно нет, просто ближайшее фото под рукой. Понятное дело дизайн не китайческий, речь не о том

Скай 30-01-2011 18:56

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Да.
А вообще меня давно привлекает такая концепция:

нее, больш яруять складн ядает большое пространство для удобного хвата

mako45 30-01-2011 18:56

бенчратио экстримамейд?

Alexx_S 30-01-2011 19:04

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Originally posted by Скай:

нее, больш яруять складн ядает большое пространство для удобного хвата

Это у LFK-то маленькая рукоять?

Akeela 30-01-2011 19:07

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Originally posted by Скай:

нее, больш яруять складн ядает большое пространство для удобного хвата

Там клинок 14,5см. Вам нужна 20-см рукоять?

Скай 30-01-2011 19:11

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Вам нужна 20-см рукоять?

мне нужен 20 см клинок

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Это у LFK-то маленькая рукоять?

в сравнении с вояжером 6" ?

Alexx_S 30-01-2011 19:12

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Originally posted by Akeela:

Там клинок 14,5см. Вам нужна 20-см рукоять?

У китайца? Вот засранцы, мало им было ЛФК спиратить, они его еще и удлинили

Akeela 30-01-2011 19:18

Я говорил о самой конструкции, нет смысла о китайцах рассуждать

Andrew L2 30-01-2011 19:57

Офигеть. Китайцы скреcтили LFX с Экстрима Ратио!
Креативно!

Akeela 30-01-2011 20:08

Они и не на такое способны

А вообще, я лишь привёл один из примеров того, как можно совместить средних размеров клинок и не громоздкую рукоять, чтоб не ограничиваться миниатюрными ножичками в модельном ряду.

Andrew L2 30-01-2011 20:25

Фолдеры хороши своей компактностью. Если нужен большой нож, то почему бы не взять фиксед?

Скай 30-01-2011 20:34

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Фолдеры хороши своей компактностью. Если нужен большой нож, то почему бы не взять фиксед?

потому что он занимает больше места.

Akeela 30-01-2011 20:40

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Originally posted by Andrew L2:

Если нужен большой нож

Клинок 11-14см никогда не считался большим.

Фикседы по-своему удобны, а складни по-своему

Andrew L2 30-01-2011 20:44

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Скай

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потому что он занимает больше места.

И что? Пускай себе занимает.

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Akeela

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Клинок 11-14см никогда не считался большим.

Кем не считался?
Для меня оптимальный размер клинка на фолдере - в пределах 10см. Чаще всего достаточно и 85-90.
А вот на фикседе 11-14 - это да, это небольшой клинок.

Akeela 30-01-2011 20:53

quote:

Originally posted by Andrew L2:

Кем не считался?

Никем

Несколько сообщений назад речь шла о фолдерах с клинком минимум 10-11см. О том и говорим.
Кому-то оптимальны и 6-сантиметровые, но мы же сейчас не о них. Традиция ганзы воротить телегу с дороги в лес)

Alexx_S 30-01-2011 20:54

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